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This is scans, the left scan is the normal, the right scan arrow is pointing to the area I search for. If I can find these marks they are from R118 as described in the Scott Catalogue, easy to find. There are other marks, but this one is easy to spot. Hope everyone who might be looking for one of these find one. Question?
Are you sure those are not silk fibers? That issue contains many and I see a bunch in that area. I’m not seeing 4 vertical lines in that area on R118. Please share an image what you are referring to.
This is scans, the left scan is the normal, the right scan arrow is pointing to the area I search for. If I can find these marks they are from R118 as described in the Scott Catalogue, easy to find. There are other marks, but this one is easy to spot. Hope everyone who might be looking for one of these find one. Question?
See scans, I’ve found four of these, I think they are easy to find, my guess is the sellers either do not recoginze what they are selling or don’t check the catalogue! I think you will find one soon! By the way, I’ve never paid more than $10.00 for one of these.
See the scans, I agree with you that the $1.00 value is not the source of this foreign design (transfer) as stated in Scott, but I can’t prove it. My guess is the 70 cent value is the source, but again I can’t prove it. As to the silk fibers (see scan) I have four of these, I don’t think the silk fibers is the source, what is the chances on four stamps the silk fibers would be lined up as shown in my scans? Suggest you (if you have one) refer to the Scott Catalogue and look of R120, you will see how Scott describes it!
See scans, I’ve found four of these, I think they are easy to find, my guess is the sellers either do not recoginze what they are selling or don’t check the catalogue! I think you will find one soon! By the way, I’ve never paid more than $10.00 for one of these.
See the scans, I agree with you that the $1.00 value is not the source of this foreign design (transfer) as stated in Scott, but I can’t prove it. My guess is the 70 cent value is the source, but again I can’t prove it. As to the silk fibers (see scan) I have four of these, I don’t think the silk fibers is the source, what is the chances on four stamps the silk fibers would be lined up as shown in my scans? Suggest you (if you have one) refer to the Scott Catalogue and look of R120, you will see how Scott describes it!
I searched the web but find no images reflective of what your images displays (4 vertical blue lines upon the ampersand).
My believe is the reference to “Foreign entry, design of $1” pertain to what can be found upon the dollar sign or the numeral one.
Great flyspecking find you have upon the R120.
You state you have four, by chance these are constant plate flaws, or possibly some sort of secret mark. Then again, I cannot seem to find anything referencing such for this issue.
Further search has brought me to check the site “Revenue-Collectors.com” and found you are on point with your stamp identification, the stamp image provided upon your post is in fact “Foreign entry, design of $1”, where they clearly show the 4 vertical blue lines upon the ampersand.
Check out the below link, and scroll down till your each R120 – there are several examples of what you have…
@jblaha Thanks for your two replies. Just one point I want to make, you will find one I’m sure. I had 8 or 9 of these and traded the best one for stamps I wanted, so you will find one!
Many thanks for this information, I never knew the position had been established and you’ve provided actual proof the foreign design is from the $1.00 R118!
I will be posting other foreign design (transfers) in the future. My main interest is the 1898 Revenues series.
Do you have any insights on Scott Number 332 with the foreign design (transfer) of (according to the Scott Catalog plate number 5299)? Unless I’m wrong plate number 5299 was only used on Scott number 375 and is a TWO CENT! I’ve only seen one of these foreign design (transfer) on line, never in person.
Good day David. My pleasure. Are you a member of the U.S. Philatelic Classics Society (USPCS)? If so, you would already have access to nearly 80 years of Chronicles, Chatters, scholarly research, exhibits,articles etc. along with many other perks.
I presume no, and happy to recommend you if you choose to join. If not, completely understand.
I am a life member, former officer, former board, etc. and current Editor-in-Chief of the USPCS award-winning “Chairman’s Chatter.”
if you email me direct, I should be able to share PDFs of the 3 articles for your research.
Regards,
Dr. Charles J. DiComo
President of both the Philatelic Society of Lancaster County (PA) & Empire State Postal History Society (NY); U.S. Philatelic Classics Society (USPCS) Life Member; Editor of award-winning Chairman’s Chatter; Director, PA Postal History Society (PaPHS); President, North Museum of Nature & Science (PA); President, Millport Conservancy (PA); Emeritus, Council of Philatelists, Smithsonian Institution National Postal Museum (SI-NPM).
Evening, thought I would share another recent find of mine.
The ultra-rare Foreign Entry of the “Matches” U.S. Private Die Proprietary Match Revenue #RO132 on the 2¢ black Demas Barnes #RS22a Medicine Revenue.
The upper image shows the hint of “ONE CENT” above “LINIMENT”, and faint “1” numerals to the left of “L”and right of the ”.”
The lower image shows two curved lines in Barnes’ forehead, which are the frame lines above and below “MATCHES”.
This is the third known to collectors, from personal communication with C. Buck. This foreign entry (Type I) is listed in ‘Scott Catalogue.’ There is another FE (Type II) not listed in Scott, which shows different features not akin to “Matches” revenue.
Can anyone here enlighten me as to how images (faint as they are) from one design find their way onto another totally different design, especially since different printing plate are used?
Could it possibly be some sort of ghost remnant of a previous plate remaining upon the inking roller/plate of which finds its way onto the other?
Or is there another way this occurs of which eludes me?
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The wrong transfer roll was used first, then earesed (not completely) the the correct transfer roll was used, but some designs from the first rolling were still visible.
@jblaha great question. And while I could type my reply here, I attach the most current summary that Charlie Buck & I concur with.
Happy to answer additional questions as needed on this topic.
Philatelically yours, Dr. Charles J. DiComo
President of both the Philatelic Society of Lancaster County (PA) & Empire State Postal History Society (NY); U.S. Philatelic Classics Society (USPCS) Life Member; Editor of award-winning Chairman’s Chatter; Director, PA Postal History Society (PaPHS); President, North Museum of Nature & Science (PA); President, Millport Conservancy (PA); Emeritus, Council of Philatelists, Smithsonian Institution National Postal Museum (SI-NPM).
@thephilatelicrelic Thank you, however I do not see the link you reference as a current summary from Charlie Buck & yourself. Please guide me to the link, if possible. I would greatly appreciate it.
In addition I recognize you from a Youtube video presentation about the 1851 3 cent Washingtons – Very informative. I have watched it 3x so far. As my grandson would say “you got game”.
There is a book “Encyciopedia of Plate Varities on U. S. Bureau Printed Postage Stamps by Loran C. French” which shows a lot of plate varieties and what they look like. I knew Cloudy as we called him, had long talks about plate varieties I wish he was still with us. His book is the bible as far as I’m concerned. It’s also a excellent education for me, you might like it.
